Expert and Eye Witnesses Testify: Flight MH17 was Downed by Air-to-Air Shells – not by Surface-to-air Missiles

An expert in aviation has scrutinized the images of the wreckage of the flight MH17 circulating on the Internet ​​- and comes to a convincing result: the cockpit of the aircraft was penetrated by air-to air shells  from 2 sides – the pressure in the plane being for fractions of a second so enormously elevated as to blow the plane apart from within at the expected positions. The parts behind the cockpit were not shot at.  The expert thus excludes a destruction in the air by a rocket.

RIA Novosti 3 Aug. 2014:  Analysis of the voice-recorder (black box)  of the MH17 shortly before it crashed has shown “nothing unusual” on board.

MH17-SU25Global Res. 21 July 2014:The Russian military discovered at least one following Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining  height near the Boeing MH17 on the day of the disaster .
It is repeatedly argued that the SU 25 had a service ceiling of 7,000 meters and thus could not have shot the MH17 down.
Comment:  The manufacturer´s manual gives the service ceiling of SU25s as 7 kmAnd nevertheless MH 17 was obviously shot down by shells see below. Kiew has returned 68 fighter aircraft into service:
On June 4, 2014, Janes Defense reported  that Kiev have recently returned to service two other higher performance fighters, including the Su-27 ‘Flanker’ and the MiG-29 ‘Fulcrum’ fighters.  Was the observed war plane(s) not of the SU25 type – but Fulcrum or Flanker?  The altitude ceiling performance characteristics of all in-service Ukrainian fighters are as follows (see SU25 above):
Su-27 ‘Flanker’ fighter – Ceiling: 64,000 ft/ 19,000 m
MiG-29 ‘Fulcrum’ jet – Ceiling: 59,000 ft/ 18,000 m
Su-24 ‘Fencer’ fighter – Ceiling: 36,000 ft/ 11,000 m, or up to 57,400 ft/ 17,500 m (depending on variations of turbo intake”.

In Washington  official voices are heard, speaking of the MH17 as a “potentially tragic error / accident”.”

Anderwelt Blog Online Peter Haisenko 26 Juli 2014: Excerpt:  First, I was amazed at how few photos can be found from the wreckage with Google. All are in low resolution, except one: The fragment of the cockpit below the window on the pilots side. This image, however, is shocking. In Washington, you can now hear views expresssed of a “potentially tragic error / accident” regarding MH17.

“I do not tak about speculatiobs but on unequival facts”,  Haisenko writes. The cockpit shows marks of shelling! You can see the entry and exit holes. The edges of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points, most likeley those of  30 millimeter caliber projectiles. The edges of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes, are everted. Moreover, it is evident that at these exit holes the outer layer of the double aluminum reinforced structure are shredded or bent – outwardly! Furthermore, minor cuts can be seen, all bent outward, which indicates that shrapnels had forcefully exited through the outer skin layer from the inside of the cockpit. The open rivets are are also bent outward.



MH17-streifschüsseFurthermore, a wing segment shows traces of a grazing shot, which in direct extension leads to the cockpit. Interestingly, I found that both the high-resolution photo of the fragment of bullet riddled cockpit as well as the segment of grazed wing have in the meantime disappeared from Google Images. One can find virtually no more pictures of the wreckage, except the well known smoking ruins.

The air-to-air version is corroborated by eyewitnesses seeing a fighter jet ascending below the airliner – and then 2 explosions were seen in the air – the airplane exploded and was spread to all sides.

Russia Today 4 Aug. 2014
shows this part of the MH17 fuselage – divided regularly at the joint and without shell holes (left).  Right below: The fuselage of the  MH17 was not penetrated by shells.


MH 17-hull

A BBC transscript of the video text was subsequently deleted. The inhabitants of the nearby villages are certain that they saw military aircraft in the sky shortly prior to the catastrophe. According to them, it actually was the jet fighters that brought down the Boeing.

Eyewitness #1: There were two explosions in the air. And this is how it broke apart. And [the fragments] blew apart like this, to the sides. And when …
Eyewitness #2: … And there was another aircraft, a military one, beside it. Everybody saw it.
Eyewitness #1: Yes, yes. It was flying under it, because it could be seen. It was proceeding underneath, below the civilian one.
Eyewitness #3: There were sounds of an explosion. But they were in the sky. They came from the sky. Then this plane made a sharp turn-around like this. It changed its trajectory and headed in that direction [indicating the direction with her hands].

MH17-passportsThis collection of unscathed passports in the burning wreckage of the MH17 are bizarre.

Olga Ivshina, BBC: The Ukrainian government rejects this version of events. They believe that the Boeing was shot down using a missile from a “BUK” complex that came in from the direction of Russia.
A BBC team located the landscape shown on the official Ukrainian photographs and video to prove the use of BUK missiles to down MH17: “Having circled around the nearby fields, we were unable to find any traces of a missile launch. Nor did the local inhabitants that we encountered see any “BUK” either.”

The US owes the world proof of its allegations that Russian missiles downed MH17
World Socialist Website 31 July 2014 In a memorandum to President Barack Obama, a group called Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) speaking for sections of the intelligence apparatus that are concerned that the behavior of the Obama administration threatens not only to provoke war, but to discredit the American state both internationally and at home has demanded that any actual evidence of Russian involvement in the downing of Malaysia flight MH17 over Ukraine is made public.
The analysts warn Obama that “US–Russian tensions are building in a precarious way over Ukraine, and we are far from certain that your advisers fully appreciate the danger of escalation.”

“Twelve days after the shoot-down of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17, your administration still has issued no coordinated intelligence assessment summarizing what evidence exists to determine who was responsible—much less to convincingly support repeated claims that the plane was downed by a Russian-supplied missile in the hands of Ukrainian separatists,” the memorandum states. “Your administration has not provided any satellite imagery showing that the separatists had such weaponry.”





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One Response to Expert and Eye Witnesses Testify: Flight MH17 was Downed by Air-to-Air Shells – not by Surface-to-air Missiles

  1. pro human being says:

    when do the “slavic” peoples of western ukraine, (and all other slavic inhabited countries) come to the understanding that the eu and america “anglo-saxons” have no intentions of supporting slavic culture or historical ties…
    the “anglo-saxons” have no interest other than expoiting slav lands of their natural resources.
    The slavic peoples culture & future now rests solely within the eastern territories of the ukraine and the whole of russia.
    Resist nato, us, eu…and get bombed to oblivion.
    Conform and get austerity measures along with a mcdonalds, olivegarden, and or chilis on every corner…

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