CBS News 17 July: A Malaysian Airlines passenger plane, a Boeing 777-200ER plane, carrying 298 people and flying at an altitude of 33,000 feet above the war zone, was shot down over eastern Ukraine on Thursday. Both the government and the pro-Russia separatists fighting in the region denied any responsibility for downing the aircraft.
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko called the downing an act of terrorism.
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Kiev “bears responsibility” for the crash because the plane was brought down in Ukraine.
Ukraine’s security services produced what they said were two intercepted telephone conversations that they said showed rebels were responsible. In the first call, the security services said, rebel commander Igor Bezler tells a Russian military intelligence officer that rebel forces shot down a plane.
In the second, two rebel fighters – one of them at the scene of the crash – say the rocket attack was carried out by a unit of insurgents about 15 miles north of the crash site.
Neither recording could be independently verified.
Rebel leader Igor Girkin (also known as Igor Strelkov) apparently deleted a statement online saying his “militia” had just downed an aircraft, thinking it was an Antonov AN-26 military plane. CBS News obtained a cached version of the post, in which he said Ukraine was warned not to “fly in our skies.”
Earlier, CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reported that if a missile took down the plane, it would have to be a Russian-made surface-to-air missile system, complete with radar, fire control, launcher and missile.
A CBS News video enclosed in this article informs that the aircraft was shot down on 17 July 2014 at 10:15 London time.
The following video by Tyler Durden (of the Zero Hedge?) has a shocking story to tell.
THE FIRST OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED VIDEOS WAS (acc. to Durden) PUBLISHED ON 16 JULY 2014 AT 19:10:24!!! IT MAKES REFERENCE TO A CONVERSATION WITH A SUPPOSED RUSSIAN GENERAL BEING TOLD THAT THE MALAYSIAN AIRCRAFT HAD BEEN SHOT DOWN – 14 HOURS BEFORE IT ACTUALLY WAS SHOT DOWN!
The video is said to have been deleted after being downloaded 810 times – and the data changed. But Tyler Durden says he has a copy of the original post.
If Durden´s report is correct, somebody tries to blame the catastrophe on Russia.
I cannot imagine that the pro-russischen rebels could mistake an aircraft flying at an altitude of 33,000 feet with great speed shortly before the Russian border for a Ukrainian military aircraft which is forbidden to cross that border.
Somebody is lying.
Putin has already – without any investigation – been appointed the murderer. But who profits from this despicable act? The Daily Mail 18 July 2014:
Security experts have dismissed the idea that Ukraine’s separatist rebels are capable of such highly-sophisticated missile attacks without expert military help.
Air security professor Norman Shanks ‘You would be able to tell it was a civilian aircraft not a military aircraft with the naked eye because of the jet plumes behind it.’
Mr. Jonathan Eyal of the Royal International Services Institute in London said: “This may be a turning point in favour of Kiew. This will act as a reminder to Putin that this escalation of military pressure that he thought he had eminent deniability for is fraught with massive risk. It makes it extremely difficult for the Russians to continue this policy of escalation. It might force them to be much more prudent.’
* Obama and EU under pressure to tighten economic noose on Moscow
* Attack has power to unite Europe to take a tougher line against Putin
* David Cameron holding crisis talks in Downing Street this morning
* ‘Fence sitting’ EU leaders like Merkel under pressure to increase sanctions
* Moscow will find it harder to supply rebel forces in Donetsk, east Ukraine
* Isolation of Russian-backed Ukrainian rebels strengthens Kiev government
* Pressure will grow to appoint hawk as next EU Foreign Policy chief
* Poland’s foreign minister Radek Sikorski an arch critic of Moscow
* Impact will be felt on 2016 US presidential election and Clinton’s chances
* Any sanctions on Russia will spark response from Kremlin against EU
* Moscow likely to ‘pick off’ smaller EU states by turning off gas supplies
* Prince William says ‘words cannot do justice to our sense of loss’.
US Vicepresident Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton have already proclaimed Putin to be responsible for the murders – without any investigation!
I don´t like Putin – but one must give the Devil his due: This stinks of a terrorist operation under false flag. Ukraine and the West alone profit from it – Russia and the terrorists stand with all the disadvantages. Putin is too clever to be behind this.